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#017 – How to Grow Your Business with Julian Shapiro of Bell Curve

Indie Hackers

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Courtland met Julian Shapiro over the internet a month after he launched NDhackers. He was getting all sorts of messages on Twitter and over email, but yours really stood out to him. And we ended up having like an hour or two phone conversation after that. The takeaway is for anyone listening is provide value, don't ask for a certification,. But if you provide value, be able to reinforce it.

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