Lucas: Can an organization take a good list and actually make changes? Michael: I am still not convinced that that is even possible. We all seem to be very much in the other hand, you had a good list. It's not very smart to put it in Tim's ward. Lucas: This is a whole other topic, Lucas, that I would be dying to talk about with you because I think the exact same thing about data culture.
How does one build a strong culture of experimentation at an organization (and what does that even mean)? One way is to spend a few years working at a company that already has such a culture… and then jump ship to another organization that is well on its way! That's (sort of) what our guest, Lukas Vermeer, did when he left booking.com to go to Vista. With Val Kroll guest-co-hosting, we dug into the challenges — organizational, educational, and mindset-al (?) — when it comes to having an organization successfully and appropriately integrate experimentation into their operational ways. For complete show notes, including links to items mentioned in this episode and a transcript of the show, visit the show page.