Kelli and Nolan unpack the delicate art of layering – that awkward moment when someone gets a new boss – while calling out the pitfalls of secret searches and celebrating the often-forgotten heroes of early startup days. Equal parts tactical advice and therapy session for growing companies.
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro(00:13) Layering Question on Dear Heretics(02:06) Initial Thoughts on Layering(02:58) Human Aspect of Layering(03:43) Importance of Coaches & Advisors(04:00) New Hires vs Existing Employees(07:16) Confidential Search on Layering(10:08) Sponsor: Metaview(12:02) Handling Layering: CEO/CPO Perspective(14:13) Expanding Roles in Startups(16:00) New Executives and Fail States(16:57) The Shepherd Role of a Leader(17:18) The Layered Employee's Perspective(18:05) Two Paths: Spiteful vs. Gracious(20:18) Building Something Bigger Than Yourself(20:59) Maturity Matters(21:20) Wrap
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