Navigating the New Office: How to Change
Hello Monday with Jessi Hempel
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I Love Your Conversation With Katy
"I loved your conversation with katy because she's in the trenches with all of us who are struggling to change. I thought that what she had to say was so useful and so good, and like so many academics, it was so clearly backed by so much research," he says. "She leads with such compassion that we know ... people are going to mess up."
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