I haven't fully resolved this idea that we need to value nature more also financially with the fact that I feel like it's sacred. There are those who say, yeah, and that's because natural, all these things, they have so much value also to the economy and it's not priced accurately. These are not priced in accurately, so there are also even within this current economic paradigm enormous disastrous market failures. It exists for its own reason. Its value is inherent. At the same time, you say you can't put a price on it, but it already has a price and a price is zero. That's why it's dying.

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