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The Power of Naivety
Kale: I used to tell people, if you lost everything that you had, what would you be? They're like, Oh my God, I would die. That's what I do with my life. Like this is the coolest thing in the world. Of course I'm going to be a personal trainer. This idea of being like an influencer that makes millions of dollars by advertising this tea and this camera and this cup isn't for me. Never been for me.