Bret and eric have specifically personally stated that they get what they described as a perverse pleasure from feeling that they believe something that the majority think is wrong, and feeling that they 're so ahead of the curve that allthe people can't even see it on the horizon. And you imagine that when you have that personality characteristic, and to go deep inthe winestan lor, they've discussed having a an uncle who basically give them an unconventional education, encouraging them to seek out that kind of thought process. And when you have that characteristic, and then you have the modern social mediego system er the the is just a desire for people who are just going to constantly shet on establishment or the orthodoxy, or meanstream thinking. It. It's like this herrific feedback mechanism. Or even if you had reasonable ins you're going to get caught up in the churn of bullshed, and yould have driven further and further. And in bret's case, the dork horse podcast, i remember when they were hesitant to voice anti vaxines sentiment. Then they have on girt vanden bosh, who is a fringe fearist, talking about natural immunity being better than vaccines. And theyre still like a hesitation and a lot of roat clearing. And then to the point where you have a non credential entrepener talking about babies brains exploding, seeming tely.

Did you really say babies brains exploding?