Journeys of Faith and Transformation

“Revival or Nothing” — The Second “S” in BSSM
(w/ Hayley Braun, Richard Gordon & Dave Ward | Hosted by Gabe Valenzuela)

What does it really mean to live a supernatural life?

In this powerful episode, Hayley Braun, Richard Gordon, Dave Ward, and Gabe Valenzuela unpack the second "S" in BSSM: supernatural. With raw honesty and bold stories, they share how revival culture isn’t just a buzzword—it’s a lifestyle. From personal encounters with God to faith-filled decisions, this conversation will ignite your hunger for more of God and ground you in the values that shape revivalists.

Whether you're leading in ministry, growing in faith, or just longing for more of the Holy Spirit in your life, this episode is packed with wisdom and fire.

[02:20] – What we mean by "supernatural" in BSSM
[10:25] – Choosing to engage with what God is doing
[15:26] – Don’t shrink God... let hunger and humility expand you
[18:18] – Pointing everything back to Jesus
[22:30] – Taking risks and stepping out in faith
[29:00] – What does it mean to be a “revivalist”?
[33:40] – Purity and power working together
[40:00] – Transformed people transform the world
[51:17] – Hayley gives word for a 19-year-old girl

• Supernatural life is normal in the kingdom of God
• Revival requires risk, hunger, and surrender
• God often works outside of our understanding—but never outside His nature
• You don’t need to be perfect to be chosen—just available
• Revivalists don’t fit in; they stand out for love, truth, and power

Hayley Braun is the Senior Overseer of BSSM Third Year.
Richard Gordon is the Chief Technology Officer of Bethel Church.
Dave Ward is the BSSM Second Year Associate Overseer.
Gabe Valenzuela is the Senior Overseer of BSSM Second Year.

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