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it's preti paran if we look at a quotation by john west, he's e his respiratory physiologist, is very well regarded in terms of respiration, and a lot of doctors will read his monk m to get an insight into respiratory helt. And his quotation is that an exercising muscle is hot and hypercapnic, and an exercising muscle, by becoming hash and hyper capnic, will receive more oxygen. So in very simple terms, what this means is, if you go for a jog, the muscles that you're going to work the hardest are the leg muscles. But how do those leg muscles get more oxygen? Because you need to get oxygen to the work, to the muscles that are working hardest. So how how do those working muscles get that oxygen? Whill the hotter the muscle becomes, that causes a right shift of the oxehemo globe, an issociation curve. And also an exercising muscle is generating and producing more carbon d oxide, which is causing a right shimd so as well as for people to remember it that te oxygen isn't delivered equally to a body. And the muscles that need it the most get the most oxygen. But for those muscles to get the more oxygen, they become hotter and hyper caphnic. And hyper means producing more carbonoxi. But here is another question, if you have anatlese with disproportionate breathlessness during physical exercise. So say we have an atletor we have a recreationa normal individual sleeping with the mouth open, breathing hard and fast all night long. We say maybe with a tendency towards anxiety or panic disorder or assme, because these groups are more prone to disfunctional breathing. That person, their breathing during rest is faster and harder. That individual then does physical exercise, and during physical exercise they have disproportionate breathing. So for the given intensity of physical exercise, their breathing is too hard and too fast, which is causing too much carbon ad oxide to be removed from the body. What's that doing then, in terms of arobic capacity and getting more oxygen to the working muscles? And in an extreme example, think of people with chronic fatigue, cindram, you know, they go for a walk for maybe 20 minutes, and they've such lactig acid as a result of it that they have to go back to bed for about two hours. That's just one example. And can we changed? Nash, yes,

we can. No, it's, it's really intriguing. You know, it's one of the thingsike, i don't think we have to make too much of a pitch for ou nolike exercise. But one things that we might need to make a pitch fora that you've mentioned here just now, is that if we a there's a translative effect. So the way that we're breathing at a normal resting condition tends to translate into how we breathe, just functionally or functionally when we're engaging in exercise. So if we can actually train ourselves through breath work techniques and through, you know, the things that you and i speak about and preach about a lot on this podcast, then we can then see a translative effect over to exercise, that kind of good carry over effect. And i do em kind of vice versa. Like, for me, i'm trying to be as cognizant and as aware as i can of my breathing and resting conditions. And then also, too, i do it when in a physical exercise capacity as well. Like breathing during exercise is a little bit more difficult, especially if you're doing nasal only, than breathing at rest. However, it becomes hell of a lot easier if you're practising it at rest, and then seeing that translating or translative effect when you're exercising. So yet, no, it's it. It's a really valuable point. So can ihave, as we wrap this up, patrick, any other thoughts, kind of, on c o two? Hopefully we've kind of like helpe to a remove any stigma or of demon demonization that people have had on c o two. I mean, a lot of our listeners, egang already know it's not kind of like the no evil thing that that's there. But it's just really important to kind of realize that if we want to be able to utilize oxygen more effectively in the muscles, that need it at that time, then we need to be able to kind of utilize and become more tolerant te c o two first. Because without c o two, oxygen is not going to operate. I mean, it's not operate at all, but it's not going to operate nearly as efficiently if weare haven function in our tolerance level two. C o two. Anything else you would add, i

think the best way is to practise it.