We've had this rather reductionist view of nutrition. Most people still assume it's just because it's got high fat, therefore if I pick the low fat one, that's going to be fine. And in every single case, whether they were looking at early death or cancer or strokes or heart attacks or dementia, when you make that adjustment, the effect remains the same. In other words, it's the processing. It isn't those nutrient contents. So food as a complex substance is really health giving and life giving for all the reasons that your listeners will know. But the individual nutrients are not what make it healthy or it turns out what make it unhealthy.

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