i was at a company called blackbod for nos norner, as big as oracle. But i learned by manage chops there, cause there were programmes in playces to teach me those things,. All the basics, all the blocking and tackling the fundamentals. Im still learning vulnerability ans, tay and ad in a way that i've never had to really do before  that is a super power. That is the super power of a leader, especially at this point time in the world we live in. I think if you're intentional about your career and you have a sense that this is where you're going to go, the earlier the better case.

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