Navigating Recognition and Resilience in the Face of Adversity

Dave and Chris are joined by Chris's pal (and former boss) Andrew Leland, who talks them through how he went from being sedentary to a marathon runner. Andrew discusses why he started running, the program he used to get in shape, and what his running journey was like, including the differences as a runner with retinitis pigmentosa. After, Dave and Chris talk about the scientifically ideal running playlist and go through Dave's and the listeners' playlists to see how they compare.

Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying

Guest: Andrew Leland

Video/Audio Producer: Victoria Valencia

Majordomo Media Producers: Kelsey Rearden and David Meyer

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