We have the capacity to synthesize that cholesterol in the body, endogenously. We do require it for really important functions, but the actual level required for optimal function and the level required during maximal phases of growth in the human body are very small. About 30 milligrams per deciliter. And we know that because that's what Goldstein and Brian looked at in kind of like infant development. Is that similar to primates? So if you were to look at animals and I think I've looked at some of this research, but if I'm correct, they don't tend to get atherosclerosis and they have much lower level. In otherwise healthy individuals, the threshold appears to be

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