How I Got Back Into the Digital Game Space

When Derek won the IGF with Aquaria, I was still at the toy company. It really made me think like, man, it'd be fun to do game stuff again. So I actually left the toy company to start story for a book called What is bothering Carl? And you guys might recognize Carl because he's actually in spelunky. He's the Cyclops character. We were just talking about some of this might be in the spunky book that we talked about a few episodes ago from the boss back book series.