How to Partner With Your Partners in the Investment Banking Industry

I think it's a very, very interesting space. Just as you were versus your cash flow, my not P as constrained. And then you have that permanent equity component where the owner can dictate when they want to exit. We do that through McKinsey and company who we have a partnership with. They will give us access to their, their experts on an ongoing basis. So, so it's really a symbiotic relationship and that translates into the business owner. I'd live through all these things, trying to build a business myself. That is our perspective, our philosophy, our outlook. You know, we're going to win and lose together, hopefully win together and not lose together.