I was a raw vegan at one point in time to living in Manhattan going to pure food and wine on a regular basis of anybody seeing a documentary bad vegan. And back then I used to tell people like oh I'm reading all these books people say like protein doesn't matter how does a gorilla get their protein. Then later on as the wellness industry and space kind of grew a little bit you know people like Walter Longo started putting out some great research but really got people alarm because he would talk about connection of things like mTOR with protein.

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