Introduction

David C. Baker: Do we need to crush in-house departments? No, I'm kind of kidding. We don't. In fact, I think that's kind of the way we used to think. And it didn't service well at all. But we were the enemy to them too, because they didn't want the shit work. They wanted the fun stuff. Those days are gone. You're listening to two Bob's conversations on the art of creative entrepreneurship with David C. Baker and Blair Ants.