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Attached to God by Chris Ben Mayfield
I'm going to almost definitely have Chris Ben Mayfield on to get, he has a book called attached to God. So just explain to us how perfectionism can undermine the kind of thing that you were sort of modeling with your son there. And I'm glad Chris Ben will be able to talk about more of like the how of it. Well, and there's really interesting stuff about adult attachment to God. It's like a fascinating field. But yeah, I think it's worth doing a little bit.