I know a bit about your background and that you were born into like a Mormon culture that was very prescriptive and restrictive. And yeah, all those things. Did you always have a sense of your own wild, open, free sort of self in this way that we're talking about? Or did that happen to you over time or with a defining moment? Like how did you get to where you are based on where you started? Who was it? Elizabeth Katie Stanton, a great feminist said, women have been systematically disappointed in the law, the polity and the economy and my life's work is to deepen this disappointment in the hearts of women until they will suffer it no longer.

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