Joe Tainter: “Surplus, Complexity, and Simplification”
The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
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The Collapse of Complex Societies
The last time I saw you in person was 2006, an energy and environmental conference. Here we are 16 years later and the world is still energy blind. We have a lot to cover because you're one of the many icons in this field that I've learned from. How did you personally become interested in complex societies, energy, the issue of collapse? You wrote your tome, the collapse of complex societies in 1988 I believe, that's over 30 years ago.
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