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The hosts discuss a new book for parents who want to support their children without pursuing social or medical transition, emphasizing the importance of trusting parental instincts. They also interview guest Katie Herzog and delve into her experiences as a lesbian, her influential article on detransitioners, and her evolving perspectives on gender.

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In this episode, Sasha and Stella eagerly welcome journalist Katie Herzog, who is also co-host with Jesse Singal on the popular podcast Blocked & Reported (aka BARPod). This dynamic discussion covers a wide range of topics, including Katie’s experiences and observations over the past two decades as a lesbian in the queer / LGBTQ+ community, especially pertaining to trans identities. They also explore Katie’s reflections from her influential 2017 article on detransitioners, The Detransitioners: They Were Transgender, Until They Weren't, and how her perspective on gender has evolved in the aftermath of its publication. The conversation even delves into repressed memories, different approaches to psychotherapy, nonbinary identities, and the particularly interesting, important and controversial topic - preferred pronouns. Katie, known well for both her wit and thoughtfulness, brought a unique perspective to these discussions, much like she lends to her own work and content.

Links:

Blocked and Reported (Katie’s Podcast with Jesse Singal)

https://www.blockedandreported.org/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=substack_profile

The Detransitioners: They Were Transgender, Until They Weren't

https://www.thestranger.com/features/2017/06/28/25252342/the-detransitioners-they-were-transgender-until-they-werent

A Response to the Uproar Over My Piece, "The Detransitioners"

https://www.thestranger.com/lgbtqitslfa/2017/07/03/25262759/a-response-to-the-uproar-over-my-piece-the-detransitioners

Katie’s Work with The Stranger (including articles linked above)

https://www.thestranger.com/authors/24847206/katie-herzog

A Segment from Katie’s Appearance on Real Time With Bill Maher

https://youtu.be/H5tZZvUUvXA?feature=shared

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