Nobody wants to be a micro manager, that is for sure. To do anything uder than that would be underleading them. So i think what you're describing, jasmon, in terms of a che list, is absolutely something that can set people up for success so that they don't micro manage and aren't micro managed. I like the way you put the engineer take on at josmine, that at these perimeters rate, it's the what, who, when, why and where. Thinking that through very clearly. Though i have to say, i think most people want to delegate because they have weigh too much to do themselves.