20 21 comes up for you, the strange and wrenching juxtaposition between the local and the global. The podcast has gone to really amazing places that i don't think either of us could have anticipated. I've been in this liminal space where we're not necessarily peak pandemic, but covit's very much still here. And meanwhile, climate change, the evie around us, is getting more and more intense. We can really, really see the edge of the cliff we seem to be racing toward as a human species. But alongside that, just as you're saying, my personal life has been, by ing large, pretty loveley.

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