I'm Just Going to Pick Up the Ness

If you're afraid of something, what you want to do is become bored by it. And if you look at a needle long enough, you'll get bored by it because it doesn't do anything. So I lifted it up and that made him kind of nervous. By the end of the session, I had the needle with the sheath touching his arm. He'd believe me, man, he would have run out of the room screaming if that would have happened,. You know, the session before that was enough.