There's an interesting venn diagram here, right? Where part of that overlaps with what you're describing as a state of awe which does not in any meaningful way need You know the require the inclusion of some sort of external substance. How much of that can we actually get without having to step into that world? I think that's going to be one of the big questions of psychedelics. Do you need these pharmaceutical interventions? And then secondarily How can those interventions be pathways to the richer life of awe? That we've been talking about and I hope we don't lose sight of that and I worry about that a lot So I think it's a good question.
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