When did you begin to notice signs of unsustained ability about the the work culture out there? Was it true sand? Was it later with your start up? And what was it like out there? Because as far as i can tell, something tipped in the culture, especially in silicon valley, towards this sort of hyper communiative, sustainable so i know somewhere around there this was happening. You were there. What were you seeing on the ground back then? I was seeing what i suppose many people were seeing and engaging in, which is a heroic sprint,. This was thes of new new economy. But when things crashed, at least what i saw before the text start up impl

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