Are Carbohydrates Really Fattening?

A few decades ago, if someone had an imde behind their name, they really had a lot of authority. And now we're in a weird world where that isn't necessarily, iin grantit. I've had people say to me, ted, you say that carbs aren't inherently fattening,. But i just listened to a podcast, and a doctor said it was all about, like, jason fung, for example. How am i supposed to listen to you and o believe what you're saying when a doctor's here on a pond cast?