"I don't think any one of us are going to get out of this life without experiencing some type of little tea, big tea," he says. "It's our mission and our goal to figure out what is the meaning from it." Paul Conte: Where do you draw that line between trauma which would be probably a net negative versus adversity, some positive and some negative, probably a net positive? And how can I find the useful tools that could come from them?"

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