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#145: The Interview Master: Cal Fussman and the Power of Listening

The Tim Ferriss Show

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I'm Coming Out to Throw Punches, Like Joe Frazer

"I literally trained like a fighter. It must have been for like four months and plus otherand i had to figure out a way to get holiosesor chaves in the ring with mehe had no idea," he says. "i just, no matter how much it burned, i just got down low and i just bobbed and waved and moved my head."

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