*Special Release* – LIVE panel discussion with Dr. Stephen Porges at the Clinical Conversations webinar
Ann and Sue share a special conversation with Dr. Stephen Porges where they explore how modern attachment meets Polyvagal theory. From the evolution of attachment theory to understanding bodily states and how they influence our interactions, they dive into the intricate relationships between emotional expression, brain function, and therapeutic techniques. Together they explore the Safe and Sound Protocol and its role in promoting engagement as well as insights into the application of these techniques both
professionally and personally.
“If you want to improve the world, start by making people feel safer.” – Dr. Stephen Porges
Time Stamps for How Modern Attachment Meets Polyvagal Theory
06:53 The evolution of attachment theory
21:07 Broadcasting our states in relationships
28:16 Understanding vocal tone and emotional expression
39:31 The role of safe and sound protocol in therapy
43:52 Accessing regulated states through listening therapies
47:31 Exploring the ventral-vagal connection
50:21 Applications of SSP in mental and physical health
About Our Guest – Dr. Stephen W. Porges
Stephen W. Porges, Ph.D., is a Distinguished University Scientist at Indiana University and founding director

of the Traumatic Stress Research Consortium. A leading researcher in psychophysiology, he has held professorships in psychiatry and neuroscience and has published over 400 peer-reviewed papers. Dr. Porges is best known for developing Polyvagal Theory, which explores the connection between the autonomic nervous system, social behavior, and mental health. He has authored several influential books and created the Safe and Sound Protocol (SSP), a music-based intervention for improving emotional regulation and social engagement. He is also a co-founder and Ex Officio Board Member of the Polyvagal Institute.


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