How I Learned to Love Retail

I did not love retail. So I said, you know, let me try something totally different. My real first love was financial services because although it doesn't seem as glamorous, it really has that element of helping people live their dreams. And one of the goals I had is to sit on publicly traded corporate boards. But what boards typically are looking for is someone who's in the C-suite and someone who's had really regular frequent ongoing interactions with the boards of companies they work for.