They’re back! Carly and CeCe are talking about all things publishing — the chaos, the business, and the fun.

This week they dive into:

When (and why) to hire a publicist
What it really takes to make it as an agent
How Ali Hazelwood & Adriana Herrera raised $1M on Kickstarter
Lauren Martin’s viral Porsche essay and women owning their power
Why publishing is gambling — and why that’s not news

Plus, the latest newsletter gems on character building, critique, and passion projects.

Mentioned: The Walrus, Words of Women, PRH Publicity Q&A, Kickstarter

Note: Cece Lyra is a literary agent at Wendy Sherman Associates. If you’d like to query CeCe, please refer to the submission guidelines at www.wsherman.com. Carly Watters is a literary agent at P.S. Literary Agency, but her work on this podcast is not affiliated with the agency, and the views expressed by Carly on this podcast are solely that of her as a podcast co-host and do not necessarily reflect the views, opinions, policies, or position of P.S. Literary Agency.

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