In today's episode, we're joined by Katy Faust, author and founder of the children's rights organization Them Before Us, for a compelling conversation about the world of IVF. We discuss Trump's recent executive order Expanding Access to In Vitro Fertilization, unpacking why it raises serious concerns for the well-being of children born through this technology. We talk about the evils of commercial surrogacy, and Katy sheds light on the deep, primal wound inflicted on infants when separated from the only mother they’ve ever known and placed in the arms of a stranger. We also explore a shocking case in Georgia, where a woman is suing an IVF clinic after giving birth to someone else’s child after the clinic implanted the wrong embryo. From overseas human egg farms to Elon Musk's many children, we examine the harms of the booming commercial fertility industry and its impact on families and children alike.

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Timecodes:

(02:36) Katy Faust intro

(03:00) Trump IVF Executive Order

(07:23) IVF genetic screening

(14:15) Executive Order opens door to fertility fraud

(16:29) Existential questions created by IVF

(21:30) Primal wound in adoption vs. IVF

(28:16) Georgia woman sues IVF clinic after delivering wrong baby

(35:19) Children need a father and a mother

(39:32) Elon Musk’s many children

(51:24) Risks to children from unrelated adults

(56:50) Overseas female egg farm

(01:00:38) Ukrainian surrogates give birth to abandoned children

(01:04:57) OpenAI CEO Sam Altman has an IVF baby

(01:09:45) Solutions for infertility besides IVF

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Links:

Them Before Us

https://thembeforeus.com/

The cost of conservative hypocrisy

https://wng.org/opinions/the-cost-of-conservative-hypocrisy-1739940814

Women kept as slaves on HUMAN egg farm

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14372569/Women-slaves-human-egg-farm-gangsters.html

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