This powerful conversation explores the relationship between decolonization and consciousness. Ashanti is a systems change agent focused on helping organizations deconstruct dominant narratives of colonization and replace them with life affirming narratives that support a regenerative future. She believes that true transformation must begin within, guiding leaders to embrace spiritual coherence and walk their talk.

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Jenny and Ashanti discuss:

How to define what is right and good
Why the inner work is imperative
The consequences of the narratives we have internalized
Rethinking our understanding of leadership and power
Taking responsibility for ourselves and what inhibits us from doing so
The relationship between deconstructing our stories and spirituality
The importance of walking the talk and the harm caused by misalignment
Love as praxis: moving from fear to love
The role of fear in white supremacy
The Zulu concept of Ubuntu
Loving each other through our ugly
Love and spiritual growth
Love, consideration, and diversity in systems change work
Open and honest communication
The importance of expressing emotions and creating emotionally safe spaces
Calling out vs. calling in
Spiritual accountability, personal integrity, and coherent leadership
Spiritual discernment
Paying attention to our thoughts and language
Self-love

Resources

Learning 2 Unlearn, Ashanti's website
"White supremacy lives in the mundane" Ashanti on Social Transformation
Pedagogy of the Oppressed, Paul Freire
We Will Not Cancel Us: And Other Dreams of Transformative Justice, adrienne maree brown

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