Carlyle was well known for being in washing, so therefore people thought we understood government better than people elsewhere. People ware fastening all over the world about what is going on in washin d c. So i would often talk about that. And i could talk about the presidents policies or politics, and reasonably well. We didn't come from wall street. We weren't really focused on fees ot much. Were focussed on good investment returns. The combination of all these things paid dividends at some point.

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