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Ep. 11 Alex Epstein: On the Moral Case for Fossil Fuels, Renewable Energy, and Green Deceptions

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Balance Progress with Environmental Awareness

Wealthier nations experience less pollution compared to poorer countries, where trade-offs between economic growth and environmental issues are often necessary. In developing regions like India, poor governmental policies exacerbate pollution challenges. For mothers in these areas, modern medical facilities improve child survival rates, highlighting that some emissions are tolerated for essential services. While fossil fuels contribute to climate change, the perception that their impact is entirely negative and catastrophic overlooks beneficial effects such as increased CO2 leading to plant growth. The warming from climate change primarily benefits colder regions, emphasizing the complexity of environmental change and the need for a nuanced understanding of its impacts.

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Well, what we
Speaker 2
see is there's very little pollution in places like the
Speaker 1
United States that are wealthy, but if you take some place like India, yeah, they do have pollution issues and part of this is bad governmental policies are going to be more important. But part of it is that when you're poor and still becoming richer, you have to make trade offs between certain levels of air emissions and then other things if you take say a mother. Well, there are a lot of mothers who are really grateful that because they have modern hospitals, their kids aren't dying during childbirth. There are a lot of mothers who are grateful that even if their kids do get asthma, they can actually get treated for it. So you need to look at the big picture.
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And what climate change fossil fuels are making
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it worse. It's interesting that people have the view that fossil fuels, if they impact climate, which I definitely believe they do. A, that it's all bad and B that it's catastrophic. And I don't think either of those are justifiable. I mean, if you look at what more CO2 in the atmosphere does you have to admit it leads to a lot of greening because CO2 is plant food. And so we get that warming is generally desirable in the world, particularly if you look at the physics of warming, where most of it occurs in some of the coldest places in the world, particularly the northern hemisphere so it's places like Siberia getting warm.

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