Constraints can be empowering as they challenge problem-solving abilities and creativity. The discussion encourages appreciation for fictional scientists, highlighting their values and contributions. Among real scientists, Rosalind Franklin garners admiration for her pivotal role in the discovery of DNA, facing significant challenges as a woman in science during her time. The conversation reflects on the ongoing discourse surrounding credit in scientific advancements, particularly regarding Franklin's contributions compared to her male counterparts, and emphasizes the importance of discipline and the scientific method in making groundbreaking discoveries.