I think it's not a neo conservative thing or a liberal thing. It's just our enlightenment heritage, to a large extent. Americans and others periodically believed that we have reached this level of progress. And they believed it in a couple of years before world war won. I china is a great beneficiary of the american lead world order. So what we need to do is understand that those are natural forces,. That is the jungle that's always trying to grow back.

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