abuse. And then suddenly you realize, oh my goodness, men have, when these strengths are used in a bad way to harm other people. Well, let me put it this way. 50%, half, of all female homicides are intimate partners. That means intimate partners is a overarching phrase, meaning husband, former husband, boyfriend, or former boyfriend. 50% of all female homicides are intimate partners. The corresponding number for men is 3%. So what that means is because of men's larger size, society has got to acknowledge those differences. Otherwise, it will not put moral, guardrails up on men's superior strength. It's not that men are more evil, but men can do more damage just because they're physically stronger. And so I did come to feel more strongly about the need to acknowledge the differences and the need to give men good purposes to focus that extra energy, that extra aggression, that extra strength that they have. We need to give men a sense of purpose and giving them unique roles in society. Feminism kind of is about, let's get rid of all role distinctions. No, I think we have to have role distinctions for women's sake to protect women. So in a sense, you usually hear this argument for men, no, I want protection. I want protection from men's superior strength. And I want them to be motivated to use their strengths for good.

I remember actually before we started the podcast, I was actually flipping through the book and just reviewing some of the previous chapters. And I was just, I just happened to be reading this section where you wrote about the Puritans and the Puritan stance on domestic abuse and just how strong a stance they took on

that. They passed the first law ever in the world that we know of, the first law ever in the world against domestic violence, or as they put it, wife beating. Six, 1641, I think, Massachusetts Bay Colony has the first law ever against wife beating. It was soon amended to include husband beating and and abuse of children and servants. But I thought that was astonishing. You know, we have such a negative view of the Puritans. Even teaching at a Christian college, if I say the word Puritan, my students all say, what? They say, I never heard anything positive about the Puritans until I read your book. So I am happy to be able to say, look, you know, this is part of our heritage is our Christian heritage, and it's our American heritage, right? Because the earlier the early years, the colonial period, you know, was largely dominated by the Puritans. And so this is a big part of our heritage. And recovering the positive part of that heritage, I think is a