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Deverel Developer Community - Is There a Customer Obsession?
Timothy Stanley: I think that yesterday, i retweated a twit from evan hamilton that you inter acted with a little bit. He was just saying, like, people need to realize that leadership is needing to explain yourself over and over again. And i think that's especially true for deverel developer community. At a developer plus company toy where there's such a narrative around the customer, there's literally words like customer obsession. But when the customers the the driver of the narrative, it's very hard to plug developers into that.