i'm not in a position to gainsay independent either, whether self-defence actions or community defense actions. But i do think that there are tons of things that are not gun control that could be a brought to bear on making gun violence less of a problem. For example, ratdery one likes to talk about chicago in a kind of trollish way, as though like, well, what are you sure this massacre is bad, but how about gun violence in ch Chicago? And the answer to say, fucky to those people and point to the fact that local activists were able to produce a trama center in chChicago rit get that built. It's triage