• The speaker and Nick started exploring other opportunities while Jonathan took time off and became an investor.
  • The speaker and Nick started a couple of successful real estate companies.
  • One of the real estate ideas they started, called American Realties, was a top seller in the East Bay in 2014.
  • The real estate business was deemed miserable and eventually shut down.
  • Sandy Spicer joined the speaker, Nick, and Jonathan in their ventures.

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