What does masculinity mean these days? Sean Illing speaks with Christine Emba, a columnist at The Washington Post who wrote the piece “Men are lost. Here’s a map out of the wilderness.” Together they discuss the confusing state of manhood, why figures like Jordan Peterson and Andrew Tate hold appeal, and how masculinity could be redefined.

Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area

Guest: Christine Emba (@ChristineEmba), Washington Post columnist and author of Rethinking Sex: A Provocation

References:

• “Men are lost. Here’s a map out of the wilderness” by Christine Emba (The Washington Post, July 10, 2023)
• Rethinking Sex: A Provocation by Christine Emba (Sentinel, 2022)
• “Did the sexual revolution go wrong?” from The Gray Area (Vox, May 11, 2022)
• “Men and boys are struggling. Should we care?” from The Gray Area (Vox, December 12, 2022)
• “The Rage and Joy of MAGA America” by David French (The New York Times, July 6, 2023)

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