In this episode, Erik sits down with Agnes Callard to discuss her views on disagreement and progress, her inclination to question and operate outside of accepted societal structures, and why empathy is not always positive. Agnes Callard is a philosopher and essayist who specializes in ancient philosophy, ethics, and Socratic communication. If you're looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/UPSTREAM

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TIMESTAMPS

(00:00) Episode Preview

(02:45) Progress in philosophy

(05:13) Tensions between academic and public philosophy

(07:56) Does philosophy make the world a better place?

(09:11) Consulting philosophers

(11:42) Why don't we go to philosophers instead of therapists?

(15:28) Sponsor: NetSuite 

(16:56) Making the case for philosophy

(19:22) Sometimes the more you know ain't so

(23:46) Benefit of self-delusion

(26:05) What do people misunderstand about Socrates? 

(27:23) Benefits of conceptual literacy 

(30:02) Irony in today's culture

(35:10) Status games

(37:30) Being Straussian vs being sincere

(44:15) Is Tyler Cowan Straussian?

(46:00) Agnes' investment into the biggest cultural war issues of our time 

(48:28) Why is John Mill's conception of free speech worn out?

(50:12) Free speech is the freedom to listen

(52:34) How do we justify hierarchy?

(56:59) Equality is not a moral principle 

(58:14) Darwinian morality

(01:01:02) Dark empathy 

(01:07:11) Intellectual masturbation

(01:09:28) Love, marriage, and living philosophically

(01:15:48) What are the questions Agnes wants to find answers to?

(01:17:20) Did we just do philosophy for the past hour?

TWITTER:

Agnes' Twitter: @AgnesCallard

Erik's Twitter: @eriktorenberg

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