When you have a company, that's all you think about. And then very quickly that running the company becomes about people and leadership. The other thing that I think a lot about is like before you even ever get to the layoff, what's the philosophy? Netflix did that great thing of, were a team, not a family? I think it's really tough. If you're going to tell people you're a family, you got to behave like family who doesn't fire people.

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