The ouster of House Speaker Kevin McCarthy a few days ago demonstrated how powerful a small group of hard-right House Republicans have become and how deep their grievances run.

We speak to one of the eight republicans who brought down Mr. McCarthy: Representative Tim Burchett of Tennessee.

Guest: Representative Tim Burchett of Tennessee’s 2nd Congressional District.

Background reading: 

• How have the Republicans who ousted Mr. McCarthy antagonized him before?
• Although some names have started to be bandied about, there is no clear replacement candidate for the speaker’s position.

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