Practical Eschatology | Transcendent Naturalism #12 with Gregg Henriques and Jordan Hall
Dr. John Vervaeke
Reframing conflict as throwing shit at each other
The insight is about reframing conflicts as a futile exercise of throwing shit at each other and locating a different space where meaningful engagement can occur. It emphasizes the need to recognize a grounded theme and history, avoiding getting locked into paths that lead to self-termination. The concept of the sacred is mentioned in relation to transcendence and orienting relationships.
Continuing the transcendent naturalism series, hosts John Vervaeke and Gregg Henriques, along with guest Jordan Hall, explore the intersections of cognitive science, philosophy, and spirituality, offering a progressive perspective on the evolution of human consciousness and society. They critically examine the limitations of conventional thought processes, particularly in response to burgeoning global crises, advocating for a shift away from antiquated, adversarial thinking patterns. The discussion delves into the evolution of language, the practical aspects of eschatology, and a transformative phase in human development termed the 'fifth joint point.' A significant focus is placed on adopting new languages and logical frameworks, not just theoretically but also in their practical application, to cultivate a collective, positive future. The conversation uniquely emphasizes the importance of relationality and personal transformation as essential components in driving societal change.
Glossary of Terms
Transcendent Naturalism: A framework combining elements of naturalism with transcendental thinking.
Fifth Joint Point: A concept referring to a significant phase transition in human development.
Practical Eschatology: A term used to describe practical approaches to understanding human evolution and the future.
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Resources and References
John Vervaeke YouTube
The Religion of Tomorrow | Transcendent Naturalism #11 with Gregg Henriques and Jordan Hall
Books, Articles, and Publications
Heidegger, Neoplatonism, and the History of Being: Relation as Ontological Ground - James Filler
Religion and Nothingness - Keiji Nishitani
The Silk Roads: A New History of the World - Peter Frankopan
The Emptying God ; A Buddhist-Jewish-Christian Conversation - Edited by John B. Cobb Jr. and Christopher Ives
Quotes
"Language evolution is critical to understanding our collective future." - Jordan Hall
"Navigating the fifth joint point requires a deep understanding of our past, present, and potential futures." - Gregg Henriques
Chapters with Timestamps
[00:00:00] Introduction to Transcendent Naturalism
[00:01:00] The Evolution of Language
[00:11:00] Practical Eschatology and Human Development
[00:20:00] The Fifth Joint Point - Navigating Future Challenges
[00:30:00] Interconnection of Languages and Consciousness
[00:40:00] Transcendence through Language and Thought
[00:50:00] Conclusion and Future Perspectives
Timestamped Highlights
[00:00:00] John Vervaeke introduces a discussion on cognitive science and naturalism with Jordan Hall and Gregg Henriques.
[00:01:21] Jordan Hall introduces concepts of 'practical eschatology' and 'extended transcendent naturalism.'
[00:04:52] Hall discusses the cultural split in the AI debate, highlighting societal polarization.
[00:09:11] Vervaeke calls for a new relationship to language and logos.
[00:14:13] Vervaeke highlights Neoplatonism and Zen's alternative linguistic and ontological approaches.
[00:20:53] Vervaeke emphasizes the need for existential transformation beyond theory.
[00:38:07] Gregg Henriques and Jordan Hall highlight the role of transcendent naturalism in framing relationality and exploring human potential.
[00:39:30] Henriques discusses developing a life-guiding operating system integrating justification systems and relational dynamics.
[00:40:20] John Vervaeke introduces the idea of a new post-nominalist language to enhance collective intelligence and understanding.
[00:42:07] Vervaeke explores the challenge of engaging with the world without being consumed by its ideologies.
[00:45:37] Jordan Hall stresses the importance of personal and authentic relational experiences in complex modern life.
[00:48:07] Hall discusses the paradox of deeply engaging with the world while maintaining a transcendent perspective.
[00:52:24] Vervaeke reinterprets the concept of God within a non-theistic, relational framework.
[00:55:34] Gregg Henriques shares his daily practice of reflecting on beliefs, values, and mantras to navigate life.
[01:02:20] Hall and Vervaeke discuss incorporating sacredness and relationality in daily life, emphasizing re-enchantment with the sacred.
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