Learnings from Microsoft and gates

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Starting Microsoft in 1991 with around 3000 employees, Bill Gates was deeply involved in product reviews, knowing details about every product and running continuous reviews in his conference room. Product teams cycled through every six to 12 months, presenting progress made. Gates earned a reputation for being critical and difficult, similar to Steve Jobs. This experience taught the importance of creating a culture that is critical yet respectful. It showcases how great product people think and emphasizes the value of being critical yet maintaining respect.

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Today’s show:

Rich Barton joins Jason to give a masterclass on his thought process behind creating evocative top-tier brands like Zillow, Expedia, and Glassdoor. (22:02) Rich also discusses the lessons he learned from Bill Gates during his time at Microsoft (49:22), how tech management has evolved (57:04), and more!

Rich's blog on branding: https://www.hopperanddropper.com/syllables-scrabble-letters-and-picking-brand-names

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(0:00) Zillow CEO Rich Barton joins Jason

(1:58) The creation of Zillow’s Zestimate

(7:03) “Tension and Importance” and empowering people in the workplace

(13:24) Crowdbotics - Get a free scoping session for your next big app idea at crowdbotics.com/twist

(14:53) Branding and creating iconic company names

(16:53) Navigating major layoffs

(22:02) Back to building top-tier brands, “What got us here, won’t get us there”

(27:54) OpenPhone - Get 20% off your first six months at https://openphone.com/twist

(29:25) Steering the complex dynamics of startup-attorney interactions

(33:22) Defying convention to create stellar products and the effects digital currency