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299. Psychedelic Science | Dr. Dennis McKenna
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
Psychotherapy - It Has to Be Voluntary
Psychotherapy has to be embarked on in a spirit of mutual trust. You have to swear or vow, in some sense, to engage in truthful exploration and dialogue. And so you have to admit you have a problem. It might be that the set that is being established at the beginning of a psychedelic experience is precisely akin to establishing the preconditions for learning.
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okay. So first of all, the person who's coming to psychotherapy has to want to change. It has to be voluntary. And that's actually something that's been hammered home by now generations of psychotherapeutic practitioners, regardless of their theoretical school. That voluntary exposure to information that might have a transformative quality, so that can be threatening, voluntary exposure is redemptive. It has to be voluntary. So you have to want to change. And then if you come to psychotherapy, for it to work, it has to be embarked on in a spirit of mutual trust. And so there's some courage there on both the part of the practitioner and the client. And then you also have to swear or vow in some sense to engage in truthful exploration and dialogue. And so you have to admit you have a problem, so there's a certain humility there. You have to be willing to learn and change. You have to engage in truthful exploration and dialogue. And you have to be aiming for improvement. And if all of those things are there, then, well, in principle, the psychotherapeutic process can begin. And you might say, well, if all those things are there, then learning itself can begin. And it might be that the set that is being established at the beginning of a psychedelic experience is just precisely akin to establishing the preconditions for learning
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