probably spoke at our events. And I would be backstage with these guys. And I would meet them like Alex from The Athletic, which is like a big media company that sold for hundreds of millions of dollars or whoever. Sam Yagen from OKCupid and Match.com. And I would meet these people. And for the most part, I would hang out with them. And I would think i don't think you're significantly smarter than me and in some cases i think you're actually dumber than me but we're mostly all in the same ballpark there was only like three or four people max from grammarly being one of them where i'm like yeah dude you're horsepower you have more horsepower than me like my oven doesn't burn that hot you just actually are smarter than me and there's nothing that i can do it's genetics but for the most part i was, we're in the same ballpark, but you're like way more successful than me in the terms of traditional success. That's bullshit. I should have that too. And what's interesting is that you have the same fears that I have. Like I would be backstage and I remember Sam Yagen, who has started OkCupid and then he was the CEO of Match.com, I think it was, you know, multi-billion dollar company. He was so nervous to speak at this event. And I remember I had to calm him down, not calm him down, but I was like, hey, Sam, are you okay? Do you want to talk it through? I could tell you seem a little high strung. You know, I'll just be your sounding board for a minute. And I remember like these people were so nervous and they were bitching about they got to fire someone, but they're afraid of the confrontation. Or they were like, like they had just raised $100 million in funding. And I I'm like, dude, why are you freaking out? He's like, I don't know how we're going to spend this in order to live out this valuation. So they had all these normal fears that I have. And I remember it feeling like, this is awesome. The people I admire are screw ups and fearful, just like I am. And it felt like I used to have bad eyesight. And once I met these people and got to intimately know them, I put good eyeglasses on it. And I was like, the world is clear. I can dominate this just like these guys do because it's okay that I'm a screwed up person. And so that gave me so much confidence. Yeah,

this is the problem. I feel like, um, you know, on Instagram, people compare their looks to, you know, these beautiful people photoshopped or whatever, but then on podcasts, they compare themselves to us. And it's like, we don't go on mfm and talk about all the ways that we're fuck ups and all of our stresses we go on there usually prepped and we've prepared well for me i've prepared for a day i've got all these smart things oh we prepare you know you guys prepare too and it's like we look we look really smart but behind the scenes everything tastes like chicken man like i'm in not hampton but i'm a, I have my own forum groups. I've got four of them. And so I've been doing that for about 15 years and there's probably 24 men and women that I'm in these forum groups with. And I've seen like every single person that I look at and I go, that person's got it figured out within two or three years. I go, Oh, okay. That's their thing that stresses them out. And every single person has something that's driving them insane. People, problems, financial stress. Totally. Because it humanizes everybody. You realize everyone is doing the same thing.

Yeah. It's awesome. And if you read like, you know, there's so many people are like, oh, Elon Musk, my hero. He's awesome. And then you read about divorce, divorce, divorce. Like he doesn't look very healthy. Whatever this is, it's like, all right, all of our shit stinks. And we all have flaws. And I think that's very invigorating when I hear that. And I, and I see that I'm in, I'm a member of Hampton as well. And I've got guys who are worth many, many hundreds of millions of dollars and they're wonderful people, but they all got shit. You know, everyone sucks a little bit. And so it's awesome to see that. You,